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Andyt

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Hi all
Im new to sailing and this forum.
I have just acquired my first yacht. I have never sailed in my life but im sure i can learn how hard can it be ?
The yacht i have is a Halcyon 23 circa 1968 ?
I have a few questions to start if someone could kindly help me with.
Where will i find the hull number / identification ?
I intend to completely strip out the interior and electrics. Try and move the head plus make the v berth the main sleeping area is there any thing i should know about these boats ?
I live on the east coast of Scotland and intend to sail her around our coastline in 2018.
Cheers IMG_0358.jpg  IMG_0386.jpeg the V Berth as she is now with the head on the right as you look forward.IMG_0388.jpeg The wiring is in a terrible state. IMG_0389.jpeg   Yes someone has cut actual "Decking boards" From a back yard to use as a deck.
This is what i shall be up against. Hopefully not to many night mares.

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Hey Andy,

I just bought a Halcyon 23 too. Yours looks good. A lot cleaner under the water than mine is! I've got a lot of hull cleaning and painting to do this winter. You can find the hull identification number on the inside of the transom. If you look into the back of the stern locker (lazarette) you should see it. Mines on the left hand side of the locker.

I can't tell you much about Halcyon 23s as like you, my journey's just beginning. I'm going to documenting my adventures (and mis-adventures) on my blog (see the sig below). 

Forepeak - I sept in my boat a couple of weeks ago, on Guy Fawkes night. I had my kids with me so they had the main saloon births. I have boards that fit between the births so the whole main cabin becomes a comfortable sleeping area. I was in the forepeak, and it gets pretty cold up there. I have boarding hiding the glass fibre sides, but I have no idea if there is any insulation behind them or not. I'm definitely going to be looking into putting some kind of insulation on the underside of the foredeck. I found it better to sleep with my head forward as when I had my legs pointing forward it felt like my head was beneath my feet, and I hate that. So I slept head to the bows. The low cabin roof above my head got wet with condensation from my breath. I think I may look at putting some insulation in there. 

I've been thinking about doing something like this;

http://www.frugal-mariner.com/Insulating.html

Hope that helps. Good luck! 

 

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Hi jamie
I have looked at that idea from the frugal mariner looks like a good idea.
I am also following your blog. Good reading [smile]
Hopefully we can get through the refits and help each other.
This weekend i need to drain the cooling system. Up here its been freezing for the last couple of days. 
I will keep you upto date how it goes.
Cheers Andy
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Hi Andy, welcome to the wonderful world of exploring by sail. Your boat looks in really good nick to be honest with you. I'm sure that there will be a few things that require attention but I would be very wary of trying to do too much in one hit, this is the way many boats end up as gutted abandoned projects on ebay. Try to fix anything that's broken first, then service that engine, gearbox, prop and all seacocks carefully. Familiarize yourself with every aspect of the rig and reefing arrangements by which time it'll probably be spring....then just sail the thing for a season. After that your going to have a better idea of what can be improved or moved. All of that original interior woodwork is looking lovely and it's a massive undertaking to stip it all out and do as good and strong a job again in time for the summer. I think you can have a great deal of fun with her without doing a great deal....apart from the electrics of course, they really do look a bit dodgy.
Here's a bit more winter reading for you, take a look at the early Westerly restoration pages to give you an idea of the work involved. http://www.shoestringsailing.com 
Best of luck, Steve.
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Hehe, yeah it would be great to share info as we find it. 

Wise words shoestring! I'm aiming to make what's there better rather than rip everything out, but I'm a sailor not a handyman.

Andy, I think your boat looks good too. I like the wooden storage /seat back solution. Means narrower bunks, but if you're going to sleep in the v-birth then that doesn't matter, and great to have all that storage.

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Thanks for the input Steve 
Looks like i will have to create a blog but i know nothing about it so may take a while.
The boat as in the picture was when she was first put up for sale.
Unfortunately i got her 2 years later. I will post some pics of her as she is now.
i read about your sanding of the keels. this is what i shall have to do.
Regarding the engine it's a Petter ac2w I will thoroughly check all the components.
Change oil plus filters ect.
The gearbox is brand new so that is a bonus. the electrics will be torn out and re fitted re routed. I will keep every one posted on how my build is going cross referencing with you guys and how you tackled problems that i will no doubt encounter.
This weekend i will have to drain the cooling system and flush/service the raw water system ( I dont even know where to start with this )
If any one has any ideas on this please let me know i will start a new post on that.
Once again thanks for the input i am looking forward to this challenge now that i have seen what you have done.
Cheers Andy 
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Here is a question for Jamie and Steve
How easy is it to set up a blog ?
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Here is a question for Jamie and Steve
How easy is it to set up a blog ?

It's fairly easy to do. I just followed the online tutorials that were being offered by webhostinghub.com (I think), paid my money (site address plus various extras in a package= £100ish) and started to put together some photos and pages by trial and error. Wordpress is the business and is quite intuitive once you get going. It does take time and a bit of head scratching to start with though.
I liked the idea of sharing information and experience as there was precious little to encourage "ordinary folk" into budget sail cruising when I needed to find an alternative watersport that I could enjoy with a knackered shoulder.
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Cheers Steve
Iam in similar situation. Bad leg neurological pain after op heyho.
Iam not rich i will be building her a hope and a payer. I'm good at DiY and scavenging from the odd building sites. This way i will keep the costs to a minimum.
Things like paint and varnishing i will be following tips from your site and a few others. 
I only want to paint her once and make it a good job. I want the same as you to take people through the journey of buying a Sailboat thats been laying around for a while then turning it into there own dream boat. If i make mistakes i will tell people.
Just now im stuck with the heat exchanger but its a big world out there and someone some where will know how i can clean it. On that point when i took it of the boat there was a LOT of water some much so that the bottom unit is gone beyond repair so that whole side will be getting ripped out. If you look at the pics it is the side below the electrics. That was a downer i thought "that is £80 i could use for somethingelse. Pluss i dont have a spare £80." As i drove up from the harbour i saw a building site and they had a pile of cut offs CLS timber ect I asked if i could have some of the timber the guy said yeah no problem. At the side of the timber was an 8x4 sheet of exterior ply. It had a corner off it but that was it. He said i could have it. Happy days just saved £80 the epoxy i have lying around so the problem is sorted. As you said any one can build a boat.
So maybe like your blog people may be interested in mine.
Thanks for the info regarding the blog.
Also thanks for a very entertaining site. 
Well done [smile]
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Hey Andy,
Have a Petter AC2W in my NC as well. In principle a good engine, completely agreeing to the saying : "don't repair a running diesel"
Last winter the cooling system stopped, completely clogged from salt & sludge , heating up the exhaust manifold which broke.
Have taken out the engine to my garage, and replaced some parts and gave it a good service and a fresh silver paint.
The parts catalogue I found proved to be gold. All items can be traced in various stores on parts number.
If you need the manual, I can send you per email.

Tried to free up time to make a nice article about it in this forum, but haven't managed yet.

Cheers,
Ernst



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Hi Andy,
The spartan interior means you can improve with very quick results ;-)

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